Most camps that were locked down had all test come back negative. Most camps 14 day quarantine ended 3 or 4 days ago. Yet the camps are still locked down.
. Something is going on behind the scenes, we all just want to get back in the fight!!!
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This whole Covid/early release thing is just a ploy by a certain political party to release inmates. Theyāve been after this for years and finally have the right crisis to execute their plan.
I work at a camp, Covid is a non-factor. Itās all politics
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Same here and we havenāt had any signs of it. The inmates all have to wear masks when they cross over, but then they take them off when theyāre on our sideā¦??? Nothing makes sense anymore.
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The big cost with the inmates is the CDC personal. Their hourly pay rate is very high and a high hourly rate on porthole to porthole is unbelievable. The high cost with the early release programs has finally killed the golden goose. Paid crews are the future right or wrong.
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If you call working 3000+ hours a year a Golden Goose, then yeah. But those camp cops donāt get paid for sitting at home. Theyāve gotta put in those hours away from home, family, and a normal schedule. So why shouldnāt they be paid?
Despite the cost of CDC personnel, itās estimated that inmate crews save the state $90-100 million a year.
Btw, itās portal to portal, not āporthole to portholeā, unless maybe youāre in the Navyā¦
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didnāt say they didnāt deserve the $, the cost is what it is
The conversation about custodial costs was going on when I went to camp in 1989. It continued when Ralph Swick and I taught Basic Crew Captain. Donāt worry about something you can not control. CDCR or itsā predecessor say how many officers go. CDCR and CCPOA agree on the wages, All of it pales in comparison to a LAT or VLAT. That is all Carry on
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Question for those that may be in the know. What is the status of the camps that run Kitchen Crew and MKUās. Are there enough of them that can work to feed the troops or are they going to go to private caterers like the Fedās? Or, in the era of COVID and dispersed camps is it just going to be MREās.
Iām not 100% but it seems like the future is going to be prepackaged food. So even if they have the MKUs, the inmates will probably just set everything out and we walk by and grab it??
Oh please no caterers
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On the crews fire they had two MKUās so the camp was split. It was hot food but already in a container that was handed to you. Salads were already packaged and anything else like deserts and drinks were either out for you to grab or they handed to you. Fresh fruit was scooped by them into the bowl you held. So not too far off from what we are used to. Just no self serve salad bar.
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And that was the maiden voyage for the New Style MKU 27
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Will take food that way from an MKU over a caterer any day!!
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So before this head down the MKU vs Private Caterers rabbit hole by question was just on the availability of the MKUās with so many Camps being shut down due to COVID and/or CDCR re-alignment.
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I would imagine the camps(8 total) would be the ones W/O MKUās. So those camps with MKUās that are under utililized will get personal from the camps that do get consolidated.
The āRumorā is 4 in the north, 4 in the south. With CIW having been closed now pushing 3 months its a good bet 2 of the 3 female camps are 2 of the 4 in the south. Just from a numbers in, numbers out standpoint.
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North Ops west side eekā¦
Chamberlain Creek Conservation Camp, Fort Bragg, Mendocino County
Devilās Garden Conservation Camp, Alturas, Modoc County
High Rock Conservation Camp, Weott, Humboldt County
Valley View Conservation Camp, Elk Creek, Glenn County
Southern region:
Baseline Conservation Camp, Jamestown, Tuolumne County
McCain Valley Conservation Camp, Boulevard, County
Pilot Rock Conservation Camp, Crestline, San Bernardino County
Rainbow Conservation Camp, Fallbrook, San Diego County
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Both McCain and Rainbow are out of MVU
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I really donāt if it matters but McCain is owned and operated by CDCR
One of the reasons I knew McCain was going to close. Rainbow is not āclosingā. They are moving the inmates to PLC and we will have our paid crews at Rainbow. The plan is to have all three in Rainbow. McCain is actually closing and they will move the inmates to La Cima
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Most of these Camp closures will relocate the remaining crew members to alternate sites.
Chamberlain to Parlin Fork
Devilās Garden to Antelope
High Rock to Eel River
Valley View to Salt Creek
Baseline to Sierra Conservation Center
McCain to La Cima
Pilot Rock to Oak Glen
Rainbow becomes the outlier because itās a female crew camp. CDCR has operated the Camps similar although not identical to the institutions for a long time in the sister site model. Most of these camps are in relatively close proximity to the sister site and are often there for cover assignments or joined together in ST configuration. As with anything, there will be a few speed bumps in the consolidation effort. It is interesting that the SacBee article articulates that the primary cause is COVID even though the headcount at these Camps has been reducing for several years to the point of crew reductions even prior to COVID.
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