TAK Information-

I have it on good authority that the following technologies are being considered or used;


the above software is slated to be used on desktop/laptop and tablet/convertible PCs. and ATAK will be deployed on android devices. they already have a LMR that has an integrated Android tablet. these are being tested right now. they plan to use APRS/MANET to allow for communication in otherwise radio/cell dead zones. firstnet is integrated into this project. but that roll out is slow and inconsistent across the country.

this tech might help but they aren’t looking at it right now.


JLENS can be used as a kind of airborne radio relay (VHF Repeater) and video platform.


the above is an actual picture of one of the test radios

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abro71 who are “they”?

To address your links in order.

LLDRS/NICS/SCOUT has been used for over a decade now. It never really got the total adoption I think we hoped for in CA. I am still disappointed that FEMA never grabbed NICS as a national COP, big missed opportunity. The code is still active at MIT Lincoln Labs for NICS NATO and WICS is running their version RAVEN. SCOUT is NICS code for OES/CAL-FIRE and they are looking at a heavy lift in enhancements. Im excited for this uplift.

As far as ATAK is concerned there will be some changes soon that will allow much easier access to the application. You will still need to decide how to deploy a server or use Team Connect. So thats really great news for accessibility to the product. Also ArcGIS MISSION is crawling along in development and is a partnership with PAR Govt the developers of ATAK and ESRI. This is supposed to be ATAK core in an ESRI GIS environment. Fingers crossed.

Networks on fires. All things have been discussed from every possible angle. This is not an easy cat to skin when we are talking low level aerial nodes like a JLEN in the proximity to tactical aircraft. I think anything aerial is gonna have to be above tactical aircraft. MQ9 will have cellular capability soon. MANET from aircraft was actually used on the Walker fire last year to display the USFS Cobra video right into an ATAK device on the fireline. MANET has its place for certain applications. It aint cheap technology but is really nice big pipe of bandwidth to send content rich material like video. I think the big lift will be cell from space like lynk is going to try and do and sat from elon musks starlink and others like viasat, oneweb, iridium and many others racing to space.

The Sonim Sled will be a disrupter for sure. A friend of mine testing it in Region 3. A link below that explains what this attachment does to a regular XP8 phone.

https://urgentcomm.com/2019/03/05/sonim-bob-escalle-demonstrates-capabilities-of-sled-enabling-lmr-comms-with-a-rugged-lte-device/

AJ

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they is a Radio/com tech in R3 he has the radios and is the man in charge of ATAK on the Forest service side. or so he says I have no way to verify this. however he has hooked my up with a lot of intel on this project and with ATAK. we meet via agency email and talk frequently on Lync now Skype. it may be the same person as your friend.

this tech is so exciting to me. I have been using NICS for a few years and transitioned to RAVEN. but now I heard that the FS is using a verison out of DHS. so it is confusing.

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Yes same guy. Eric Aselin is leading the initiative on the Fed side. He is the only reason I know anything about ATAK. He is the perfect example of perseverance and not taking no for an answer. Him and Dave Zader out of Boulder fire have done a ton for domestic use of ATAK specifically for wildland fire. You are a better person for knowing Eric.

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YES! he is the example, we have talked at length about how much resistance/ignorance he has had to overcome. small world!

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Wanted to give a technology front update as the season gets underway. ATAK now has a public release version (PR) that anyone can download and use. You can get it on the home page at www.takmaps.com It does strip away the ability for plugins. If you are government you can sign up at the same site for an account and get the ATAK Civilian version that has plugins and the plugins are available from the site.

So the PR version is first step to hopefully ATAK coming to the Playstore. iTAK is also getting another try. As far as wildland use it has a ton applications. It can ingest our current maps from the GIS unit (or from the ftp site) they just need to be converted from the pdf format to the geotiff format. I have found the quickest conversion is using freeware GIS program called QGIS. You open the pdf in QGIS and export as Tiff. ArcMap has this ability but ArcPro does not (gofigure) so I have been using QGIS successfully and its super fast. I am hoping as the ATAK popularity grows Situation Units/GIS Units will host their daily map in this format for consumption Here is a link on how to do it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R96ut1-Lbc7VmYBqkOMpaKwQ_oaNEweq/view?usp=sharing

The cool thing about ATAK is you can bring all your maps in as one map data package. So you could take the geotiff ops map, transportation, IR map, IR KML data, Branch map etc and put them in a folder then zip that folder up and then import it all at one time. No more downloading each map separately. This folder could be hosted by the IMT cloud and local network file distribution systems we have all been used to i.e. dropbox, googledrive, box.com etc etc. Hoping the IMTs can add this to their workflow. Would maybe add 10 minutes to what they currently do now.

So for ATAK to be really bitchen and collaborative you are hooked to other users via network connection to a TAK server or using TeamConnect which is basically a hosted TAK server you pay a yearly fee to use. Some people build their own TAK servers some pay others to set up a TAK server for them some use TeamConnect. Here is the Team Connect website https://goteamconnect.com/

So if your connected into a server you can share data with other users. Send shapes, chat etc. If you arent connected you can still use ATAK with gotennas or beartooth. Think off grid mesh network. You can also use ATAK offline like you currently use Avenza and its still very powerful.

So back to the map. You can reduce the transparency so you can see base imagery below it. Custom Base maps are xml maps you can import. ATAK comes with some base maps but if you want google hybrid or host of others I have it here in this folder for you. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1v4drGf0xTUEp9qRCOVxMcfRAy63rKSyX

You can cache areas for offline use. Bring in KML network links from MODIS, VIIRS etc. ATAK has a whole host of measuring tools, tracks, lines, polygons for drawing etc. All the core wildland symbology for points. It can export these points in a variety of formats including kml, kmz, shapefile, gpx etc. You can load terrain elevation models and get 3D imagery. I am hitting the highlights here there is a ton of stuff. Here is a little video we did with samsung shows some of this stuff.

The Colorado Center of Excellence https://www.cofiretech.org has created some cool ATAK starter youtube videos. These go from "Ive never used Android (I was in that boat on the Mendocino Complex when a guy from the USFS named Eric Aselin called me about this thing called ATAK…the rest is history) to getting some of the tools going. If you join takmaps.com they have a whole other host of video resources for all the tools as well. Last video shows off what you can do with geospatial video in ATAK as well and live feeds from a UAS thats flying in ATAK. Hope this was informative.

AJ




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Hi,
in the curent era, we need to focus on some specific tings..

Oh bots got to love em

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A little update on ATAK.

As was mentioned before ATAK-PR is available for download from www.takmaps.com

Im still working on GIS exporting geospatial tiffs as a product that would be available for download. Remember you can always use QGIS to convert pdf to tiff. Working on a better tutorial and how to use it Google Earth as well.

If you want full network action for ATAK you need to get on or host your own takserver or subscribe to TeamConnect for 100 dollars a year per device. (its what my agency uses) They can be found here https://goteamconnect.com/

Here is a youtube channel dedicated to ATAK and a ATAK-CIV informational website from the Air Force Research Lab at https://www.takciv.org/

Here is a google drive folder on some our fire dept training powerpoints on using ATAK and TeamConnect. More coming soon.

ATAK-Training-PPTs

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Thanks, AJ!

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For those wanting to check out ATAK and how it can be used we have added all 509 wildfire alert cameras. Currently they are geolocated at their location. Auto populating field of view of the camera within ATAK coming very soon. It will be just like the web instance.

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Hey there. Nice job. Link to check that out ?
Thx

Private message and I can get it to you.

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made a down and dirty updated tutorial for making geopdf into geotiff for google earth or atak. Working on a google earth tutorial for the tiffs.

Here is ftp site https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/

Here is tutorial

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PI9iCqo4Y7rAmTdbJEO2smpfRPKxSpN5?usp=sharing

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Updated some tutorial stuff I added another document on using geotiffs in Google Earth.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PI9iCqo4Y7rAmTdbJEO2smpfRPKxSpN5?usp=sharing

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Some new videos on ATAK -

Here is a video of AA51 footage in ATAK from the other night on the Rowher incident. DPA layer turned on and the perimeter polygon. Additionally 3D on so you can tilt the map.

AA51 in ATAK

Another cool thing about TAK is the ability to port in ADS-B broadcasting from Aircraft. This updates about every 3 seconds. Here is a screen shot of a new solution we are working on. This is aircraft on the Soledad fire in Los Angeles County. You can see its bringing up CAL-FIRE Copter 305. You get a lot of metadata with it as well.

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Just an update. I have been fielding a bunch of questions on ATAK.

Its Android only for now. iTAK coming soon. Its on its second attempt and looking like this time its gonna go.

www.takmaps.com you can download ATAK-Civ and that gets you full version. You have to register with a .gov account to get extra plugins for now. You really dont need them right off the bat. Hoping all of this on the playstore within the year.

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AJ, thank you for taking the time to inform us! Please keep it coming!

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