Air attack sounding very frustrated with the situation on the north side, largely due to resources not being available to mobilize at a critical time because they’re in shift change / morning brief. Significant confusion regarding comms with the new zoning, sounds like aircraft are running out of radios to monitor all of the freqs effectively.
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In looking at the heat signatures along Hwy 88 in the area of Silver Lake, Caples and Kirkwood, it appears that all the clean up work the ENF has done in that corridor is paying off. Does not appear that a lot of significant fire ran through there. Eyes on it will tell but the ENF has been doing a lot of clean up of the ladder fuels in the last few years. More forests should follow that lead.
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KCRA over the fire
Some decent heat coming out of the canyon below Caples Lake Dam
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not to mention it looks amazing driving thru it! Job very well done. Example setter.
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Do you have any pictures of Thompson peak by 89 In xmas valley?
Any method to obtain specific geographic markers on these FLIR cam images. AN overlay of some sort. Specifcally the Heavenly images? I see the general direction the cams are aimed so I can deduce some.
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https://weathernode.net/flir-panoramas/all
there are headings if you click on the panoramas…
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Is anyone privy or have access to why exactly many of us are still evacuated along sly park? It would appear from IR maps this flank had been cold for days. The ops map shows this flank as “contained”. Some of us ( thousand of us) are going on 17 days away from our homes. Info is hard to come by and it’s difficult to plan for future when there is no info available. I understand that many have lost all and I don’t want to appear insensitive but being homeless for the past 17 days hasnt been easy. Especially for our kids.
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Anyone have links to CIIMT4 IAP?
I am not on this Incident but you should be able to call your local Sheriff department to get a ball park time to return to your residence.
Be wishes on the outcome.
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Part of the issue always on repopulation is safety. Down wires, trees, no services that all have to be addressed. Talk with SO and you may be able to get escorted visit in and out to collect needed items. Teams and SO do not want to keep you out any longer than needed.
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Every member of the fire service is empathetic to you and all those who are displaced or who may have lost everything to these fires.
With that being said safety of the public is our top concern and priority. Generally re-population occurs after assessments are completed, hazardous waste is tagged and removed, other hazardous such as standing dead trees are removed, basic infrastructure like power lines and other utilities need to be evaluated and often replaced. These actions generally have a large presence of heavy equipment operating up and down the roadways.
I’m sure at this point patience is running thin and that’s completely understandable but hopefully you can find some solace in knowing that there are procedures that are actively being planned and will be implemented as quickly as possible to get the community back in.
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No on the escort in and out. They did that the first few days, but shut that down. North of 50 was repopulated Wed afternoon. On todays OPs map for Branch 1, the hot line at the bottom of Delta is now black, which is really good. The area south of 50 was at the most risk until this line was secured. There have been spot fires each day, which have been attacked and caught. I would expect an announcement very soon, but I did not see the 0700 briefing this morning.
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For clarification, the IR maps do not show cold. The majority of the fire still has either moderate heat in it or pinpoints of heat including the west side. A significant amount of this still needs to be addressed. (If you used my maps I eliminated these for clarity as I wanted to show possible progression areas).
Contained means they do not believe the fire will spread and they are in mop up stage. Not sure of the direction from the command team but for me, mop up was usually 100’ or 300’ feet in dependent upon the density/type of the fuel. Doesn’t mean the 40" DBH tree next to the road won’t burn through and fall on the unsuspecting passing car.
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Sherriff department was not helpful. They said they didn’t know when or why. You would think that returning approx 5k to their homes would be more of a priority…
As someone who is in leadership position I understand that I am paid to make well thought out tough decisions. Not easy blanket, let’s play it super easy and safe, decisions. That’s why I’m asking if there is a component that I missing in their decision making process
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Thanks everyone. I’m just frustrated…
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Contact your coubty board of supervisors rep. They were extremely helpful in getting areas repopulated faster after czu fire.
They kept saying they kept us out due to no power/water…mountain people have tons of experience on how to live with no power/water due to PGE PS shutoff.
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It is a fire driven decision. There are no infrastructure issues. Fire never entered the area. Not sure power was even shut off. It may have been for a short period of time, but not long, and is on now. EDSO just waiting for the OK from the fire.
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Thanks everyone. I understand it’s hard to geographicly isolate areas but it’s been really hard to know fire never even came close to our neighborhood or roads that lead to it yet it remains closed. Ive been a fireman for a long time, not a Wildlands guru!, But stillI have a pretty good grasp on situation. I will reach out to and pester anyone in authority whom I think can help speed up process.
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