Both are correct. End of report.
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So I assume the environmental issue is the naturally occurring asbestos that is on some of the maps. What is the mitigation for a fire in there? I’ll have to do some research.
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Yeah, Im not sure what the current policy is for that area but when I was a FF-1, it was a no go zone.
Thick fuel up there, I camped on San Benito Mtn 20 years ago and it was 20 foot brush for miles
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If the fire crosses Los Gatos Creek Road there will not be many places to stop it. North West of the fire is what they call the Red Zone which is thousands of acres of asbestos minds. In that area normally we stay out of but if the fire gets there it will be a different ball game.
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It’s the red zone. Simple answer is no one goes in there. An engine was taken in there years ago and it got stripped down to the frame to be deconned. If it gets into the red zone it’s just gonna burn till it come out the other end.
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Immediate need from SHU- sounds like some terminology needs cleaned up- they will be lucky to get a couple winks prior to the morning briefing.
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No familiar with the asbestos issue that causes the Red Zone. Is it free asbestos on the ground that could get disturbed by suppression action, or is it a lot of old mines and mine/air shafts?
They were open pot mines about 210, 000 acres
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Interesting history lesson
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Natural asbestos mines are in the new idra area. Look on Apple Maps or google maps and the area north of Los Gatos creek rd the stuff that’s white isn’t snow my friend. The super funded the area in the late 80s I believe the mine was the new idra mine.
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New Idra is a Mercury superfund site
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The rock up there is Serpentine, the source of asbestos.
I confessed to working at Sunol over on the Hollow Fire thread. I also worked part of '74 at Beaver Dam. The asbestos trunks used to barrel past the station with their loads uncovered and the dust in a long plume behind. We didn’t think anything of it.
Then came Mesothelioma (lung cancer caused by sharp particles deep in the lungs), suits that bankrupted Johns Manville and other asbestos insulation companies. It is really hazardous stuff. As I recall it was about 1977-78 when fire suppression in there was stopped.
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Sorry to hear. And the things we do when young and not knowing that bite us in the A@@ later.
All to aware of it. Ring mountain on Tiburon peninsula just up from my station has a ton of SERP rock and several slide areas that crumple down.
I always check areas from WL fires I’ve been on to see if in area and document it
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Are you aware if the fire has crossed Los Gatos creek going north? I’ve got some friends out there
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Any strike teams from czu currently on the incident?
I don’t think so their is a ST from CUZ and SCU covering BEU
Check out the ftp sever for
Today’s map. That should have your location of the fire
Where can I find that
Are they doing a firing operation in the area of the Joaquin camera? Significant uptick in fire activity.
There is suppose to be a big firing operation today.
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