CA-KNF-Kidd and Kidder 2

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State ID: CA
3 letter designator: KNF
Fire name: Kidd and Kidder 2
Location: N 41.50305 W 123.080, south of Kidder Creek about 5 miles west of Greenview
Reported acres: 50 and 15
Rate of spread: Slow to Moderate
Report on Conditions:
Structure threat: None
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Weather:
Radio channels: KNF River
Scanner link: https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/28507
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Discovered Thursday, 09/05/19 as 2 small lightning fires. Jumpers were deployed to the fire on 09/06/19, but had to leave that afternoon because of increasing fire activity. Per the scanner, some of their equipment was burned over. Air tankers did a few drops but were diverted back to the Lime fire. Air attack advised that the 2 fires would burn together, potential for 500 - 1000 acres. Burning in the 2017 Salmon August Complex fire scar.

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IC requesting 2 tankers to the fire. It seems to be picking up, putting up a lot of smoke compared to 30 minutes ago. Judging from the other posts here on other fires, the afternoon burn period has kicked off.

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I believe I have been seeing this for days on the Hayfork alert cam.
http://www.alertwildfire.org/shastamodoc/index.html

Only a portion of it.

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That should be the SHF - canyon Creek.

Kidder creek is about 60 air miles nne from hayfork cam…I believe.

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Thanks, I posted the cam on the discussion of that incident.

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Starting to heat up looking at camera

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Which camera are you looking at? I wasn’t aware there was one that showed this fire.

Edit: The camera link posted above shows the Middle Fire on the SHF, not the Kidder Fire.

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80 acres, 0% contained per ONCC News and Notes.

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They got an IR flight last night, 127 acres. Here’s the map:

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The Kidder fire is now being managed by Team 15 along with the Lime Fire.

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Good thing its pretty flat :scream:

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Yep, looks like perfect mobile attack country

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Lol yup, pump and roll!

141 acres last night. Looks like they’re getting it wrapped up, not a lot of smoke today. Lows were in the 30’s last night in Scott Valley, and there are clouds sitting over the fire today. Hopefully it will be a done deal before the weekend, when temps return to the 90’s.

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Aren’t these fires on wilderness? If so are they still actively engaging it?

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Yes, the fire is just barely into the wilderness, and they are actively engaged. With prevailing winds, if left unchecked, the fire would quickly spread into private timberland and eventually homes.

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fishcop and in other topics posted show that an aggressive attack is the best result. i know that this fire season started off slow. but i feel that the aggressive IA proved to be effective in keeping fires small and manageable. it is only now when we swing into a heavy fire season that folks start talking about management. That starts early on like spring; after spring it is a whole new ball game. if you live in the western states…it is go after every fire as if it will grow to a large fire…keep it small…too much interface. most of us have seen what happens when the let burn happens. lets go after them and burn in are time…

Mods: so sorry. this should be in Q & A. Please move

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158 acres, 27% contained.

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9/12/19 @ 0700: CA-KNF Kidder 2 Fire: 161 acres of timber, 32% contained. Current threats include historical and cultural sites, private timber land and Spotted Owl habitat.