CA-LNU-Alpine???

3:36PM 3/1/2022 VEGETATION FIRE #AlpineFire Bonita Terrace × Alpine Terrace Monte Rio (Sonoma County). IC Requesting 5 additional engines, 2 crews and 1 dozer. 1 Airattack, 2 tankers and 1 copter (2 copters if no tankers available). Fire is moving uphill towards the ridge top at a Slow to Moderate ROS. [LNU FIRE SCANNER]
3:30PM 3/1/2022 VEGETATION FIRE #AlpineFire Bonita Terrace × Alpine Terrace Monte Rio (Sonoma County). Cal Fire Copter 910 doing recon reporting 4 Acres, Moderate ROS in heavy timber understory. [LNU FIRE SCANNER]
3:05PM 3/1/2022 VEGETATION FIRE #AlpineFire Bonita Terrace × Alpine Terrace
Monte Rio (Sonoma County). 100x100 ft Spot, Slow ROS. [LNU FIRE SCANNER]
SCANNER: Sonoma County CAL FIRE Sonoma County CAL FIRE Live Audio Feed

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Slow rate of spread, 1st of March, burning understory in timber with no structure threat, headed into a cooling trend with precip likely in next 2 days and we are flying tankers and flying an air attack up from Socal to put this thing out ASAP?
This area hasn’t had wildfire for a very long time. Why not use this fire to clean up things so we don’t burn it all to a crisp in a late-fall windstorm? Rhetorical question, of course, but we’ve got to get better at using fire when we can.

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Unfortunately Zeke, it’s private property and the PRC prohibit a “wildfire” being used for resource benifit :pleading_face:

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Because someone owns it… and they do not want it burnt down…
Because burning pine needles while it sounds good and supports the narrative, it does not guarantee the prevention of a future fire.

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Tankers flew out of Sac didn’t they ?

Things are changing, no guarantee the landowner doesn’t want their land burned.

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According to your narrative… obviously someone did not want the fire. As I said, you can burn all the pine needles you want… it makes for a good story for you to peddle…

You and I usually don’t have this argument until June on here, damn climate change is moving everything earlier!

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Its not just climate change… it is environment change. That is why allowing fires to burn in California has a very limited envelope…

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I know spring burns carry a lot of liability for holdovers. I just have a hard time watching us snuffing every fire in this area, regardless of conditions.
Every time we’ve had critical fire conditions in Sonoma in the autumn in past 5 years, I just keep waiting for us to get the one that’s going to take out that west side of the County. No fire history in the immediate area of this fire in past 100 years, at least on the agency maps. Pink fires on this map are all pre-1980.
And the big one we get here is going to cause a huge amount of damage to people, not just trees.

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Plain and simple, Cal Fire will always on SRA (privately held land) aggressively suppress all fires to the goal of 10 acres or less.

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Creighton Ridge in 81 was about 12,000 acres( big at the time).

Another potential reason is the Bohemian club just to the East. That’s a huge national and international political retreat site.

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It doesn’t look like your map has the Wahl Bridge (sp) Fire from 2020. That had fire from Lake Sonoma all the way south to the outskirts of Guerneville. It was part of the LNU Complex.

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Just thought I’d mention that it’s still active. LNU jumped the gun calling it final.
https://www.alertwildfire.org/region/northbay/?camera=Axis-Siri

Hmmmm. not good. Especially in March…

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7:24:07 PM
Update from Cal Fire: The steep ground, heavy
fuel and poor access continue to hinder control
efforts on the Alpine Fire. Favorable weather
conditions and the slow spread rate are allowing
firefighters of the CAL FIRE Sonoma-Lake-Napa
Unit to use advantageous ground features to
establish new lines of control and, as a result, The
fire has slowly grown to 11 acres. The fire is 50%
contained, no threat to the structures and no
injuries were reported. CAL FIRE will continue to
have a strong presence at Alpine Fire over the
next few days, until full control is achieved.

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Since I live here… this is the 5th suspicious fire in this area. It was making runs down slope to a populated area and had spots in the canopy. Letting it run uncontrolled was not an option. They had to creat a new road system to get to it.

Even after some good lines were put down it still jumped containment. It’s been dry and windy out here (until today) and could have been a problem. That is why they brought in air resources.

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Ground units were pulled at 3am. They’ll let the light rain do its thing today and be back on it tomorrow.

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The fire jumped containment lines last night (Tuesday night.). Still putting up a bit of a fight. High wind in the area, units worked all day to re-establish control lines.

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