CA-SNF-Italian??

No real details yet, fire is in Jose basin in the Creek scar.

Meadow lakes and Huntington lake cams showing smoke

https://ops.alertcalifornia.org/cam-console/2110

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Near Italian bar road and Jose basin. 0ht off Millerton and 2 tankers inbound.

https://ops.alertcalifornia.org/cam-console/9206

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Still a quite a bit to burn down in there.

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5 acres in heavy dead down, mid slope between switch backs of Italian Bar Rd.
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MROS… torching

Below Jose Basin Rd. down the road couple miles on Italian Bar . Reported that it was witnessed start.

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1:27 PM

Air Attack has requested 2 additional tankers for a total of 5

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10 acres … making progress…

Requesting High Tension Power Lines be de-energized, that should pin down where their working.

Resources not engaged to be staged at Jose Basin intersection.

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IC states that acreage remains 10 and hose lines will be in around entire fire tonight.

Sorry, busy away from computer doing saw work and chipping on fire fuels project…
imagine that.

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No worries, I stopped listening I couldn’t hardly hear any traffic. Glad they got a stop.

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I kept looking up river for a column and never saw one then saw 0HT coming back to the lake.

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By the way you do very nice work.

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SNF stopped staffing at night but still staffs fire for day shift and continues to mop up hot spots. Minimal smoke and heat.

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E381 went out this morning and checked for heat or smoke. None found. Remains in patrol status.

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I have to say there is no realistic reason I can think of this isn’t fully controlled.

Size, IA resources, duration of incident is odd, can anyone shed light on why this is such a difficult incident to close out.

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Most likely paperwork but also the location. I remember when Brian Vasquez made the statement that the Creek fire wasnt declared contained because of paperwork.

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There’s Contained, Controlled and Out. Until the fire’s declared out it’s in patrol status. No body’s getting HP or other perks. That crew is out there because they were directed to be.

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Did not know there was another classification past controlled. But I have been retired a while.

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Controlled is out. Controlled is the final vernacular I believe.

Let me throw a caveat in here because I suspect there will be a back n forth. A fire can be controlled and still have heat within its lines however calling an incident controlled is when you no longer put resources on it.

And typically a fire this small which was like 10 acres or less I believe when it is controlled the incident should be terminated.

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That is always the way we used the term and action associated with it. This is a very long standing discussion in the wildland profession and one that has been discussed at length here. It boils down to agency interpretation most of the time.

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