Is anyone in legacy media talking about this?
Is anyone besides @pyrogeography in New Media / Digital Media talking about this?
Small window of time to provide public feedback..
Is anyone in legacy media talking about this?
Is anyone besides @pyrogeography in New Media / Digital Media talking about this?
Small window of time to provide public feedback..
Iâve seen it in a few news media spots. The amount of change and upheaval this Administration has done since Jan 20th is overwhelming to keep up with for everyone.
The problem is, from looking at the maps and knowing whatâs out there, most of these arenât actually âroadlessâ areas. Theyâre simply areas where the Forest Service has decided they donât want people driving. Or maybe they donât want to be on the hook for maintaining the roads any more. One of the provided links lists â26,647 miles of trail, and 19,596 miles of mountain biking.â Probably some overlap there, but Iâd be willing to bet the vast majority of that mileage is, in fact, old abandoned roads.
I posted this on another site discussing this topic:
The absolute worst possible thing you can do with a road is to simply close it. Put up a gate, dig a tank trap, set some âBFRâsâ and walk away. Thatâs the worst option, and thatâs what theyâve been doing.
Once the road was put in, it altered the hydrology of the landform basically forever. Inboard ditches, culverts, various wet drainage crossings, all changed the hydrology of the landform and, without maintenance, lead to massive sedimentation of creeks and streams.
There are only two options (sort of three):
a. Re-engineer the road to reduce/eliminate inboard ditches, outslope the road surface, at least ensure the culvert crossings will âfail softâ when (not if) they clog and fail and not simply divert the entire creek a mile down the road to the next creek
Note that I donât discuss the value of having a road in the first place, only the obligation that building the road represents to public land stewards
The Pacific Crest Trail Association is chiming in. https://www.pcta.org/2025/scrapping-the-roadless-rule-will-harm-the-pct-96600/. Many of the trails in these areas are maintained by volunteer groups, such as PCTA and Back Country Horsemen, for recreational enjoyment.
The âroadlessâ designation is actually mapped areas where roads have not been built. The original mapping for this designation was done in the late 1970s.
I did a livestream on this topic earlier this year. That video is on The Lookout, here:
Maps are at the bottom of the postâŚ
And +1 on the comments about not walking away from built roads!