HI-PTYQ-Leilani???

700 Acre as of last night, probably double this morning. Winds were blowing approx 30mph yesterday. This morning they seems similar. Here’s a picture from last night. Looks like it came off Pohakuloa Training Area. Saw a number of D9 dozers heading up to it last night.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/multimedia/live-map-hawaiian-fire-near-kohala-and-kona/

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Started back in July on the training grounds. Blew out with the wind yesterday. Now over 10K acres burning on state, fed and private property.

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Latest I have is 25,000 acres and 10% contained, name looks to be Leilani

Helicopter flying the fire line/ bucket work

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Is this the only thread for this fire?
thanks

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Incident Name Leilani
Unit HI-PTYQ
Size 25,000 Acres
% Ctn 10%
Est Ctn 8/31
Personnel 40
Eng 3
Copter 4
Cost $150,000
Origin DOD

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Incident Name Leilani
Unit HI-PTYQ
Size 25,000 Acres
% Ctn 30%
Est Ctn 8/31
Personnel 49
Eng 3
Copter 6
Cost $200,000
Origin DOD

Some shots of dozer (D10s!) and HC work, some brutal ground conditions!

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Well…1 D10, 1 D9, 1 D8…

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Certainly a different world than we’re used to in California. 25,000 acres with 3 engines and 49 total personnel. Of course ordering up 20 or 30 strike teams of engines isn’t an option when you’re on an island with only a couple of hundred thousand people. And you’d need strike teams of tire service trucks to go along with them!

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Pretty sure there’s a load configuration doc that shows how to stuff a type 3 engine ST on a c130. At least there used to be. It could happen.

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True. I’ll bet it still takes a while to get them there. They seem to be doing pretty well with what they have though.

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You can fly to HI faster than you can drive from MVU to AEU. Just saying

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I think the loading was on a C5, not a C130, for the ST.

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I’d go with that. C5 looks about x5 the capacity of the 130. You figure they put a 4 or 5,000 gal retardant tank in a c130. There’s no way they’re stuffing 5 engines +1 in there.

On 2nd thought, I’m pretty sure it was a c130. The load out I remember was model 1’s, 5’s and 9’s. Much tighter than the 34’s now. The STL vehicle was probably the recon jeep too.

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1977 we flew engines on C-130s. Two per last one was one engine and the STL pickup. The load master was using a slide rule to figure out the load calcs. Engines were weighed and centerlines mark. Pretty scarey taking off and watching the rigs strain against the chain binders and creaking to beat the band.

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No thanks. I’ll do happy camp before watching chains bind on a type 3 engine in a military aircraft at 30,000 feet.

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Pressurized? If not, yeah 30,000’d be a bad trip

MOD Note:

Appreciate the interesting convo but let’s keep it on topic.

Thanks,

FJ

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Final update unless something occurs. Looks like 70% cont and size has been “reevaluated”. I’m thinking final size will be something between 16K to 18K acres. Cost so far high side of $325K. Drove by yesterday and no smoke scene from a high vantage point.

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