ATAK Maps/Data
CALFIRE IMT Box link (IAP,Maps, Etc)
tiny.cc/calfireimt(insert team #)
IAP is at tiny.cc/calfireimt6 in IAP folder. Maps are in the GIS folder.
Resonding to AJ’s question about why one team might put their IAP on a Google Sites website or OneDrive Account, a Cal Fire Team might use Box.com, and another may just put it in a folder on the NIFC FTP site?
One thing I have seen in past 2 decades is that agency data protocols and IT infrastructure are so top-heavy and overly-complicated many teams have just come up with ways that work for them and run with them - things like using a Gmail address for PIO contact like chipsfireinfo@gmail.com. As far as I can remember, nobody at Cal Fire HQ decided anyone was going to use Box.com. We were on fires and needed to share information, and creative people in the Planning Section came up with solutions that eventually were more or less accepted by the higher-ups.
Even the NIFC FTP site started off as someone in Portland’s (R6 HQ) good, unsanctioned idea. He set up a server in his office and we all started using it. Eventually, someone higher up decided this was not acceptable and moved the server to a legit system hosted in Kansas City or somewhere else more administrative. When they copied all the old data to the new server, we lost years worth of archival fire data, and the old server? Well, if you know where it is, or even how to turn it on, a bunch of us would like to know so we can recover all of that valuable old dozer line and other mapping data.
Technology moves so much faster than bureaucracy.
@pyrogeography, That is the key phrase! Even if/when there are great forward thinking guidelines and standards in place, it needs to consider and encompass items like pre-approval for initiating incident specific Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram accounts and email addresses responsive to the subject incident using a standardized naming convention. In the worse case, approval must be obtained in seconds once a request is filed. Standards and guidelines that enable turn-key solutions for an IMT/AHIMT are necessary.
There needs to be standardized infrastructure and guidance for publishing, storage, and access of public documents like IAPs, maps, etc., and specifications to determine which is FOUO or LE sensitive, the data it can or cannot contain for those standards, and enabling guidance for secure access to those documents. Not just IBC memo 22-02, but far more expansive standards for the outward facing side.
IMT/AHIMTs must be nimble and responsive to their information and intel consumers, quickly, within minutes. The leadership responsible for developing those standards, guidelines, and infrastructure must acknowledge that the consumers include the categories of responding resources, host and assisting agency leadership, and the affected public and stakeholders, and design a responsive system that serves the specific needs of those consumer categories.
Update to how CAL-FIRE teams are using calfire.box.com to distribute data/products.
All teams are using one account now to make it easier to transition in a new team. Transitioning to a new team is somewhat of a new thing as fires on SRA are lasting longer and longer. Yes its been done before but typically the same team takes the fire till the end with CAL-FIRE.
With that said the static urls we have been used to for each teams current incident folder will no longer be relevant. Each incident will get its unique folder and corresponding QR and url.
The tiny.cc redirects we used to use although active will not point to the correct folder.
I created a shortened URL for the OAK incident.
http://tiny.cc/CAMMUOAK2022
Just bumping this thread as folks have been asking about IAPs etc. Just a refresher on how things are distributed.
RE IAP for Biscar fire
,Im authenticated and logged in in the FTP site , for some reason I can pull up IAPs for other fires but not the Biscar … anyone else having that issue ? It must be the way it loaded on there .
I just now found out that all that stuff is not public any longer. CRAP!
Yeah ok I can see the IAP ok you want to hide that and they had for years but the maps? The data that is open that I could pull in and make my own map out of? they lock that down? strange. I mean all they are leaving off are the branches and dozer lines etc. I dont think i will ever understand what goes on “up there”. What are we actually hiding? I could walk in to fire camp and probably find 10 iaps blowing in the wind. Maps galore.
I was able to pull up maps. OPS etc. That is the only thing public now…
Does anyone know if there’s any way as a LG FF to get access under this new system?
Make a login.gov and then can request access
Thanks. I was able to get authenticated and now have access to IAPs. As mentioned, all mapping products are still public and don’t require authentication.
Does anyone know what’s going on with the SOPS news and notes site? Last update was 8/20. NOPS is still updated daily as usual.
Yup I was stoked to learn the maps are good. This header threw me off, i thought maps were gone. Well its just this years maps no historical data, looks like the geodatabases arent shared but some teams are. Oh well stoked because this is going in the new map depot plugin for ATAK i hope to get released tomorrow.
