I’m glad we got away from using past fires to describe fire intensity, only one fire can whistle Dixie, the creek fire became a Midwest supercell starting separate fires and a tornado that went 12 miles which nearly hit a bunch of people who were trapped.
Gone nuclear: has a white fluffy cloud on top of the plume and looks like a mushroom cloud.
Making a run: building in intensity.
Pucker factor to the umpteenth…see map pic.
“local team”
I’ve heard shaky containment at 10 acres I think we caught it at about 1200 acres 10 hours later
Call me crazy, i feel like these descriptors belong somewhere in this thread..
During size-up:
One more for good measure, Line Construction:
my old BC 3511 when I told him we had shaky containment on a early morning fire and to hold the aircraft, " we are not placing those bets"
Alrighty then
T-Shirt vendor on way…
Or John Candy (Great Outdoors) ba ba ba ba ba bih bih bih bih bih bih biggggg fire…
I heard shaky containment at 1 acre and 151000 at final in 2015.
‘Pigs are gonna die!’
‘Going project’
(Either way, a caterer will be ordered, and much ‘USDA Institutional Grade’ meat will be served).
Welp, it weren’t wrong…
Since you brought that up..
“Rainbow beef” = roast beef sandwich meat.
Wouldn’t it be neat to know how many miles of hand line has been constructed fueled entirely by Rainbow Beef & skittles OR Rainbow Turkey & nutter butter cookies!?
Uncrustables
Night acres
Stump F**kers
From Air Attack, “It’s gone chief, we’re not going to catch it.”
AA to airbase, order more retardant and cancel lunch
First off much respect to you. Your posts and insight are always valued.
I am going to agree and disagree. I think we are watching the site change and we need to accept that if we want it to remain. The fact is between WD, insta, X, etc. fire info is much more readily available. I think this is where we can provide insight, predictions, learning moments.
I may be wrong, but I think the majority of the overzealous it’s gone, stick a fork in it, etc. posts are coming from younger, newer fire personnel. And I love it, they are eager, cocky, and confident. I think this is where we as the older more experienced group have a chance to mentor these guys. Tell a story about a time we thought we had it and then it wasn’t over for 6 weeks. Pass on some tactics and lessons learned and maybe some of them can learn the easy way instead of the hard way.
But either way, the site is evolving, we can either guide that change for the better, or not. Just my two cents on the matter.
Deleted the similar post so its cleaner just know 
post is in response to mine here. Thanks busy mods for cleaning up my mess 
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So over the past few weeks I’ve heard alot of “she’s gone” talk followed somewhat promptly by quite a bit of “stick a fork” type jargon with the occasional “they’re going to hammer it”.
My point if any is lets all calm down on the predictions, and possibly focus on the factual progress that is currently taking place. Example “they are painting the left flank towards x ridge” or even “sounds like they are planning on painting the left flank towards x ridge”.
Ive noticed alot of high fiving and over excitement when retardant or dozer lines get in place or are in the process however it’s either in its first burn period or not direct line in all areas or hasn’t been secured by ground troops.
Also it appears to be setting troops up for the perception of failure when people reading things of this nature dont see the fire go out and they believed the internet had the right prediction but the fireman on the line could not execute properly.
Please remember that this site is viewed by all types of people and I’m not just talking about public who dont have experience but young fireman who dont truly know how to interpret everything they are reading, they will start to emulate the behavior and responses they see here more than likely with poor timing and improper situation application.
When this happens we will start to see much more uptick in social media style responses on this platform of people chasing hearts like thumbs ups, there will be more frequent posts that dont add substance to the discussion and dilute threads.
Im not trying to say dont make predictions, or dont post a screen grab of an impressive column development, or even tell a story that is relatively connected to a current incident from history.
I am saying lets try and be more tactful with our verbiage, lets be mindful of the frequency of our posts. Lets try and refrain from saying how effective something will be before its implemented (unless its in a thread appropriate for discussion), and lets not get sucked in to wanting to be the one who predicted the stop or major run unless its related to an attempt to provide information relevant to aiding the boots on the ground.
We’re all guilty of over excitement once in awhile however, I feel this trending in a direction that is making this into “the norm” and not the exception.
I will post this in the terminology thread however I thought since this is the most active incident and I believe it relates I would include it here as well.
Please remember this is not an attack and please add substance to this if you believe you can maybe do so in the terminology thread though.
This is a Q and A thread brother. I have been a member of this site and the previous for a very long time and know the rules quite well. I know this reply will get pulled however these dad posts are the reason why this site is dying and folks are just using watch duty. I work for the state and have for a long time so when I say stick a fork in it, most likely I am at the incident or know somebody in command.
I agree with both of the previous posts, but want to add that the threads about incidents have way too much “discussion” that would be better handled in the QA or other discussion threads.
On that tip, it’s helpful to throw some qualifier into a post if you have quality/firsthand info, something like ‘talked to ops this morning’ or ‘I’m on this one and it’s out’. I figured as much for your post on Coyote, what with EDC in your handle…
