Wildland Firefighter Entry Level Pay

I’ve seen some of those draft flsa overtime payments and the formula to generate the flsa overtime payment. It doesn’t seem to be as much as I had thought. Just wanted to float that in case expectations were high. Did any of you see your flsa overtime payment amount?

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Figured when looking at my FLSA it equates to roughly $1 per hour of OT on a normal check. So if that’s the case would that be my outstanding payment?

That’s sounds consistent.

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Jamie and Randy, ever wonder why we don’t have a thread in here on federal firefighter job offers? Somewhat easy to figure out why.

$22 entry level pay and scale up through the ranks.

Portal to Portal pay for all emergency assignments.

Hazard pay for prescribed fire.

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Not many updates coming out from Grassroots WFFs as well? Hoping for one from them on progress or where everything is at.

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Agreed to both of the last couple posts. It seems to be very quiet right now on the progress front. I am curious if there will be a grassroots update soon.

I did get the FLSA pay though. it was about what we thought, 1$ p/hr of OT. Anyone else get this yet?

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Has any of the 4% received the back pay yet? Curious to see if payments went out because I still have not received mine yet as they stated we should be getting paid this month.

Updates? Currently right now, the Union has entered Negotiations for the newest version of the Master Agreement. I know there’s a lot on the plate. I’ve expressed views of many to the Negotiations Team. As for Legislative, we continue lobbying on the Hill to work towards better pay, benefits and working conditions of federal employees. The fight ain’t over. Continue to write letters. Hashtagging on social media your representatives in congress gets their attention. Never stop, don’t stop.

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Glad to hear it Hrryup. I will continue and encourage my folks to write to their congress people. Thank you for the update. And I agree, we need to keep the train full steam ahead.

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Huge Win!!! President Biden signed H.R. 521 into Law

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On June 21, 2022, 179 days ago, Randy Moore wrote he has begun working on portal to portal pay for his employees.

Please ask Randy Moore and R5 FAM Director Jaime Gamboa the status of this important work?

https://www.fs.usda.gov/inside-fs/leadership/chiefs-desk-increased-payments-firefighters-achieved

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Just today I was talking to a Supt of a Hot shot crew from past…telling him that this was an instrumental implication to any retention of the Fed Wildland Firefighter of the USFS…And Just Due.
Long overdue. Please post direct contact to Chief Randy Moore.

I only hope ALL True Wildland Firefighters, past and Present rise to this call…IT IS TIME NOW to act

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Just so you know you are not alone. Still have not got my first 2 checks. Same with HR open a ticket they close the ticket. I am wage grade. We are used to being forgotten until they need XXXX"on the map. I make lots of those. Love how Mr. Rhodes specifically mentioned OPM says we are identified correctly. A former CNF employee who has no dozers speaks on our behalf. Not to mention no seat at the table(which we requested). Union has also passed us by. We are the only people doing work now while the GS folks are having their holiday. Good times.

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The 2022 omnibus bill for fiscal year 2023 lifted the annual pay cap for our GS12,13,14 and 15 employees for overtime hours while supporting wildand fire suppression assignments. This allows for highly paid employees to continue making overtime. This was the right thing to do since we don’t want employees working for free. The primary beneficiary of this is upper level fire management officers, line officers and natural resource staff.

Nothing can be found in the omnibus so far that was part of the tim hart act or anything beneficial for the federal wildland firefighters. Let’s hope I am wrong.

Congratulations to Randy, fire chiefs, line officers and other non firefighters for being able to keep your overtime flowing, while your rank and file missed out on the best chance for the foreseeable future to get Tim Hart Act priorities passed and on the presidents desk.

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I have scoured the 4100+ page document by searching various key words and have found nothing related to salary improvement or any of the other items on our list.
Not gonna lie, I’m kind of disappointed but not discouraged. We now have 9 months to figure it out or pay the consequences. I do know that Grassroots is having a meeting on January 26th. I’m curious to see what the updates are.
Keep writing to your congresspeople everyone. Happy Holidays to all. Hope everyone is getting some down time.

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Rather than whining, bitching and complaining, why don’t yall just resign and find another agency like cal fire that pays their people relatively well. Or go private sector. Or leave fire all together! No one owes you anything! You want $20 entry level GS3?
What do navy seals make?!? Look it up. It’s all about choices.
I know I’m the bad guy, but someone had to say it

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I hear you brother, I enjoyed the freedom to go home every night….! Best choice I made, and it did pay the bills…!

Keep up the fight! We have a tremendous year ahead of us! If you’re not at the table, you’re probably on the menu!

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Appreciate the input slug. Hope you have a great 2023.