Just a question. I thought i understood a comment on a radio news station that they are using National Guard folks to assist in search and recovery.
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Yes we are. 100 National Guard troops to assist with search and recovery. I think they are all MP’s but not positive.
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Sheriff stated at tonights media briefing, they brought in an additional 287 personnel today to assist in the search and recovery effort, that includes 100 CNG. The total of personnel in the effort is 461 individuals plus 22 cadaver dogs.
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Fatality count went up today to a total of 56. 47 tenentivly identified, pending notification next of kin.
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This number will continue to rise as search teams continue their gruesome job! Keep Strong
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When I saw mention of “Branch 11” I thought someone had misread Branch II as Branch 11. Nope! This fire actually has that number of divisions. The feds would have split this fire into 2-3 “zones” with a Type I team for each zone and put an Area Command team as IC. Cal Fire disagrees with this and thus has this number of divisions and says that the ICS was not designed to have two command teams on one fire. The feds say that is true, but more than 5-6 branches exceeds the desired span of control of 5. As this is going to occur more frequently in the future, perhaps we need to rename a group of about 5 branches and have multiple zones under one IMT. As for the title of the position in charge of a “zone,” I think “Zone Patron” has a ring to it, but that sounds silly. So what is left? Zone Chief (would cause confusion with operations, plans, logistic, etc.). Zone Senior Director (too wordy?) or Zone President (implies a democracy), maybe Zone Manager (managers are normally subordinate to directors), Zone Assistant IC (implies that there would be Zone IC’s) or Zone Vice IC?
I downloaded the missing persons list and noted it has about 100-110 persons on it. I hope all are found, but I don’t think that will be the outcome, unfortunately. Most seem to be at least 60+ years in age. I don’t think that is a cause, but reflects the existing demographic of that area.
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Even though they have it named Branch 10 and 11, there are a total of 5 Branches on this fire - so within ICS designed span of control. With it going unified with USFS, and half the fire front reaching into the forest, it could easily expand into a state and a fed Zone with teams on each. They numbered and labeled their Divisions and Branches accordingly for further expansion if/when it is needed.
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I’m kind of an ICS nerd and love that you put the thought into this. It will be interesting to see how this will get decided. Firescope was so long ago.
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Confused at Statement “FIRESCOPE was so long ago”. I believe it continues to evolve.
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11 posts were split to a new topic: CA conflagrations cause and prevention?? (off topic taken out of BTU-Camp)
Not the time or the place
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Anybody know if the active heat in the north along hwy 70 was a from a burn op? Or is that still uncontrolled?
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I’ve been away from map intel today but had ears on command in the background. Sounds like some firing operations around Bear Ranch Com site with mendocino hotshots. I only had half an ear today. Lots of T1 copter work up in there today around the heel and 70.
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The latest numbers as of 1800 hours Thursday night. 140,000 acres with 40% containment. 63 confirmed fatalities, destroyed structures: 9,700 single family homes, 118 multi-family homes, 290 commercial buildings, and 1,750 other structures for a total of 11,862 destroyed structures.
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The California National Guard troops are Combat engineers out of Chico and Petaluma. They are trained in search and extraction among other things. … I believe
Does anybody have the address of the ICP, we’ve got 5 cases of Fire Wipes(decon wipes) that have been donated and want to get them to those who need them.
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Silver Dollar Fairgrounds in Chico, Ca.
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ICP is at the Silver Dollar Fairgrounds. 2357 Fair St. Chico, CA. 95928
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First day of demob in camp
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Presidential Motorcade left Chico Airport and is headed up Skyway to Paradise. Unknown where all they will visit.
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