Sorry, thought it was (sadly) a more commonly understood term in this situation. I was referring to units not assigned to the incident, at the disposal of the Forest dispatch covering IA on the Forest, being sent straight into a community for structure protection. No contacting IC on such and such channel, no other instruction other than the sobering “structure protection.” Which unsaid, is life safety first, structures second.
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Hmmm…responding into an incident without contact with established command or supervisor? Who has got their backs? How do you contact them? Not knowing resources working in your area, or who your boss is? Who your supervisor is? Sounds like a Watch out situation.
Might happen on Fed incidents…can’t think that I have heard of it on State or LG incidents.
Trust me when I say that they are not responding to an incident without establish command or a supervisor. This is usually a preplanned procedure. Every time I have seen it done, a BC or STEN will accompany them, they have the comm plan and the DIVS they will be assigned to is in the loop. A discussion between the IC and the agency rep or Forest Fire Chief happens before they respond any resources. I hope this helps!
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Sorry - not trying to be literal. Most likely a preplanned situation, radio loads established, incase of emergency break glass situation.
But yes, agreed, nobody is rogue on the incident.
My former agency did this all the time. Promised a 1st alarm to the incident at the drop of a hat. Yes, they had comms, yes, they had supervision, yes they were part of the incident. The Tamarack is still burning in my back yard, my agency sent our units + regional mutual aid twice and was always coordinated with the IMT. Normally, the incoming units use “local” tac channels to communicate and the involved division/branch would prepare for this, preplan it, and ensure good accountability for all units. It’s not uncommon…
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Those engines were absolutely vital in saving homes this afternoon, I don’t care what term you call in as- the important part is that they came when needed.
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Has there been any conversation of a contingency plan for Weaverville? I know the fire is west of Junction City still. But with the light flashy fuels in the Helena scar, heat wave starting in the valley the next couple days, it seems be setting up for that westernly push right up and over Oregon Mountain.
CalFire in coordination with Team 5 have been opening only lines on the SRA above Junction City. On the west side, Mandatory Evacuations of Burnt Ranch were implemented this morning. Today we had more of a offshore flow which pushed smoke all the way to the coast. At this time the fire continues to be a fuels driven fire and is actively burning along the entire perimeter but not major runs as of now.
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Thank you captmack for your short but meaningful update. I understand why they exist but I don’t get much out of the canned summaries out of NOPS or mostly on inciweb anymore. Maps, photos, and posts like these are much appreciated.
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With the growth last night and the expected wind event over the next few days I would expect to see evac warnings for Hayfork and Hyampom soon.
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These two spots are more than likely gonna get REAL interesting soon.
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Thought I’d give a post re: Hayfork, cal fir-5 is in command for the south zone, AK1 team for the north, much to many many people’s protests against AK1. That is a topic for another time/thread. Hayfork on the north/east side of hwy 3 from the summit through town & Hyampom road down to 9mile bridge which is well before Hyampom is under orders of evac. Across hwy 3 south/west from same borders are evac warning. Which essentially splits our town in half. Gas station on the order side but groceries on the warning side…. Per the hubby who stayed while kids & I evaced the major threat to Hayfork is behind us, cal-fire has mentioned they will have dozers line from the summit all along the east of hwy 3 to box in essentially saving the town. The scary part is how many fingers & how spread out they are coming all down at once from multiple areas in regard to the actual town. Unless winds are pushing it it is all backing. There was a spot up Brady rd right above our families ranch that was lined & taking care of in a super timely manner, with many fire trucks & personnel staged on the property. With the many micro-climates in & around Hayfork area it is very difficult to predict any wind patterns specially from where ICP is in Redding! Winds are calm & town is socked in with smoke per eyes/boots on the ground. Since almost entire NorCal is evaced it is so difficult to find a hotel or anything for lodging, so We will be heading home tomorrow unless situation changes in regards to wind. The hubby is very confident in Calfire & they are being awesome in regards to listening & taking into consideration this local boys ideas & advice, on how to get to & around areas on our side of the mountain. That’s all I have to report on for the Hayfork side of this beast.
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Washington State TF 1&2 have demobed off the Fox Complex in Oregon and are enroute to this incident.
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Does anyone know if damage assessments have been completed for the Big Bar area?
Yes, damage assessment has been done in Big Bar and Big Flat.
Thanks. What’s the link to view the assessment?
To the best of my knowledge that is not public information. You would need to call the county assessors office with specific address questions.
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Does anyone know if 299 west to 3 is open for fire traffic? Just got into redding for an assignment on the Monument and am told to head to hayfork camp in the AM. Thanks
Yes, it’s open to Hwy 3.