So there is a new or not so new beast in discussion. Fortunate or not I witnessed the development of the vortecies on the Carr fire from about 1630 until they laid down.
My thoughts are, maybe we can generate a conversation here that can be shared with the “propeller heads” ( respectful poke). Who else has witnessed these large rotating masses that haven’t been recorded or documented. If we can generate time date and location, the weather data and radar imagery etc is archived and can be compiled.
Or maybe I’m barking up a burnt tree and us boots on the ground just write of as fire whirls like we see dancing up a flank. Just on a REALLY big scale.
To be honest, to see first hand where thses vortecies on the Carr traveled is boggling. 6" of road base stripped from roadways, cargo containers displaced 1/2 mile, objects impaled in trees, passenger vehicles lifted, and finally a D-6 cat on asphalt, operator literally dropped his rippers because I the cat was sliding sideways(3-5 feet)
Carr fire vortex, what the scientists think
Maybe we can help the folks at NWS,USFS, MISSOULA, ourselves…
Unfortunately I have a bit of vested interest, because the 3 mentioned cases in the article , from national scientists, all three Vortecies in discussion happened in Shasta County ( Carr,Eiler, fountain)
I can remember partners seeing one possible large vortex uproot trees etc on the modoc in 2007 or 08 but can’t remember the name. There’s pics floating around somewhere.
Let’s help gathering the data!
