North Ops Weather - 2024

In the spirit of trying not to take everything in life for granted. Tactical pause & HUGE THANK YOU for the thoughtful, well spoken and mostly understandable replies from the KHHR’s that lurk in the weather & fire behavior threads. When “local” knowledge of Wx factors & fire behavior/history factors come together it makes for good t.v! I wish we had this resource for the early days of my career. #stupiddg! btw, khhr is my term for “knowledgable heavy hitting regulars” end of report…

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Where did you get this clip? Please cite your source so we can read the entire doc if we want. Thank you.

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National 7-Day Significant Fire Potential (nwcg.gov)

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76 degrees & 17% rh @ 0500 in RDD = Giddy up!

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Where is RDD? It isn’t showing up on my list. It’s 49 and 79% at 0900 here in ARF. I’m wearing a jacket.

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Redding Airport

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Windy and dry at Jarbo Gap this morning.

Further north, near Butte Meadow, cooler, not so windy (not in a gap)

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I took a drive up to Jarbo Gap at about noon, hoping to get some B-roll footage of high winds in the Camp Fire burn scar. It looks like I got in my car right about the time the winds fell off a cliff.

I forgot how exposed the Jarbo Gap RAWS is. It’s in a perfect place to capture big canyon winds in the North Fork Feather River, but not necessarily representative of anything else in the area.

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Funny, i’ve said the same things about Ladder Butte and some of it’s eastside counterparts for years! #ifeelu!

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Really common for the diurnal flow to overpower the down canyons in this type of pattern. You can set your clocks to the winds in this more “summer like” pattern. This being a weaker offshore flow mimics a summer like pattern rather than a fall event. A more easterly move by the HP cell would have increased wind speeds and duration.
I would expect the same to be standard all week. Go up to Granite Ridge or Hoffman road area the wind is always strong there. If you are brave enough… Tobin Ridge road( sketchy road).

Below is a chart I made off some anecdotal data of the correlation between temps and wind speeds in HP dominate weather without a strong pressure gradient from a LP center departing and a HP center moving in.
Temp Average Gusts
|90-94F |21.6 MPH|26MPH|
|94-98F |22.4MPH|26MPH|
|98-102F |26MPH|31MPH|
|102-106 F |38.4MPH|42MPH|

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Very dry for the Bay Area:

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? Hard to believe 3% RH on Marin coast

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Fire season - could get ugly:

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I think it turned ugly a few months ago. Look at the Great Basin fire growth yesterday.

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We keep using the term ‘fire season’ lol. It’s all weather dependent now vs calendar months ie; May thru Oct except longer in So Cal and shorter in Nor Nor Cal. Anymore it’s all weather dependent. Back in the days or EARP and NERP. 'Season would end, FF’s were laid off and perm folks went on to their winter projects of winter maintenance and team tech etc. Fire activity will dwindle and end when Mother Nature says so lol.

I watch the extended forecasts put out by the NWS and a good tool, but they can change as fast as the weather itself lol. Especially this time of year. Times have sure changed and so has the weather thus the new term of ‘Year round fire season’…

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Well, this is a North Ops thread and up here we do not really get huge fires late in the season even if there is no rain. Days too short or something, nothing like Christmas and New Years fires down south. But at this point in time the door is not shut yet although it is closing.

There is always this push to say that fire season is 12 months, well up here it just isn’t true, there are never any significant fires past November (yet).

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