Not on that map.
AEU was in SOPS until 2007, when it was decided that having them in NOPS to match the ENF made better operational sense. Previously when they were in SOPS resource ordering in the interagency ECC was very challenging, going to NOPS for fed incidents, and SOPS for state incidents, not to mention the incidents that spanned the DPA line!!
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Not that I am aware of.
The Northops and South Ops divisions have absolutely nothing to do with how TV does their news, but remember CZU is in NothOps, and aligned with the Bay Area in North Ops.
Ok…to give you one point. Monterey NWS is split between NorthOps and South Ops. But, again, that doesn’t matter.
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It is on the official (from NIFC) National GACC Boundaries layer. Part of Alpine County too. I have worked on both sides of the GACC boundary in Mono County.
I’ve lived and worked all through there. Monterey south to Ventura goes by Central Coast so often that this is the way we often refer to it. Santa Cruz is Central Coast or not depending on who you talk to, and where they work. The North and South Ops boundary has just not come up often enough in my daily walk to have been important, although I’ll grant you freely some people here are paid to know the difference and get it right, because of the financials, and liability. That’s not something most people are tuned into when they look for info about a fire.
The ONCC/OSCC dividing line is a lot less of a wall than most other GACC boundaries, they do cooperate and coordinate well for moving resources around. You will find this site has quite a few folks who are very tuned into these issues. Getting it right makes it a lot easier to find fires in the various systems for sure. I think you would be surprised at the mix of folks on here.
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I’m not sure how important that all is, for me. The only thing I have riding on this, is that I would miss it for a little while. I’m not making any money, here, and the attention is incidental.
Then why start the thread, and be the most difficult person in it
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I didn’t start the thread, and I’m not arguing for anything. The question was raised as to what people would change, and I reasoned through it a bit. Once again, its a tempest in a teapot. Anvilhead posted an image of a lightning cell west of Fresno, I posted a screencap of lighting detections from the same area. A person asked if it was the right topic thread. ModCamo answered and moved the discussion. What difficulty are you referring to? Do you feel compelled to intervene in something? What?
I’m serious. What are you finding it difficult to do, that has to do with any of this?
Your thinking way to hard about this. Any administrative boundary is largely arbitrary and for administrative purposes.
Doesn’t matter if it’s national forest boundaries, BLM districts, CAL FIRE Admin districts, NWS WFO office and coverage area, CalOES regions (law, fire, mutual aid). They all differ and should the need arise resources will readily cross the imaginary lines.
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I agree. Heavy weather day. Especially out in the desert. Not a day to be doing risky things out in the heat and wind at all. Its also going to have a drying effect on fuels. And its not over, tomorrow looks to be about the same.
This is a strange discussion 
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What really matters is safety and making the case to Congress, I think. And this cat. This cat also matters. He says, “Hello.”
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You left out Amador county
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State of Jefferson or not? Just ask. If they say “hella” yes -North if they say “hell” no - South. Then there is your dividing line. Or simply ask “dodgers or giants?” there is your line. … or finally… who takes all the water? Theres your line
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Holy mother of Pearl. Is it that slow that this thread now has over 40 comments?
The news, is there the gather eye-balls for advertising to pay the bills. Santa Barbara to LA to Kern County to the Mexican Border is considered So Cal. North to about Monterey, the Stanislaus is Central CA. North of there is Canada:grin:. Everything east of the Sierra Crest north of Kern County to Reno is considered the Eastern Sierra. To make this even less confusing than it already is. The San Bernardino Unit of Calfire has the responsibilities of the larger land mass in California. To include Los Angeles County (including Catalina Island), San Bernardino, Inyo & Mono counties, but Kern County. As they are administered by Tulare Unit. Having to deal with the Inyo, Humboldt-Toiyabe, San Bernardino, Angeles, and Los Padres Forest. That all touch the SRA. Or better yet, have state lands that are covered by FRA DPA 
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Lets see if we can beat this dead horse with another Forty! As long of the ground troops and air force show up, I really don’t care if it’s North or South Ops. Green or Red or Blue just send it and put it out. Bills always seemed to get hashed out in the wintertime.
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I think the answer is tacos. SouthOps is all about tacos. NorthOps eats burritos, and the Central Coast is where the fortunate finish their careers, with sushi, good steaks, and fine red wine. The Eastern Sierra, sadly lacks all of these luxuries, and you’re stuck with second-rate microbrews and stale sourdough from Schatt’s Bakery that people tell you is a real delicacy.
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As always I appreciate your insight pyro. And we’d prefer it if that’s what people believed about the eastern Sierra. We’re already inundated with yuppies and vacationers driving up the housing prices to ridiculous levels. Anyways, we prefer to think of ourselves as region 4.5
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