Does it matter in the realm of things? Is it going to change the tactics we use to fight it?
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Command-wise? not really unless it poses a safety issue with resources in between fires. Operationally? Do we send incident IA resources, does the hosting unit send resources as a new incident? Logistically? āany orders in ROSS yet?ā Planning? Maybe if we are pushing PyroCu 20 miles over, we think of how that fire might affect the main one? Will we run into this new fire? Does it change the incident objectives? Financially? Heck of an interesting question, especially if lawsuits are involved. Does it belong here in this thread? Well if this new question never thought of before was spawned from the main thread, do we include it in the main thread or create a new thread? This is too meta now.
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Any updates on the Crescent Mills, Taylorsville area?
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If I remember right from driving out by Lone Rock a few times. Barely any tree canopy, and a pretty nuked out area from the moon light fire.
Also lots of forest roads good for engine access in the area.
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I, too, would be grateful for any info on Crescent Mills, Taylorsville and the Greenville Rancheria.
And Iām already SO grateful for the good, solid, info you give here, and for keeping this thread on track as much as you have.
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Matt Henderson just posted a few pictures and has been doing fb live shots when he can Redirecting...
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Thatās oversimplifying things.
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I was on the Sheep fire in the area were it burned into the Moonlight scar. The ground fuels are thick and fire activity was moderate. Very steep and rocky terrain.
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I see winds are expected to pick up tomorrow afternoon and night 20 to 30. Once upon a time it was nice now the zephyr seems evil.
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Dyer Mountain Lookout - nice dozer work to save the old fire lookout and repeaters. Go back one hour:
http://www.alertwildfire.org/shastamodoc/index.html?camera=Axis-DyerMtn2&v=fd40731
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CalFire IMT 3 confirmed activated to the Dixie fire, going to be taking the soon to be created North Zone
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Where are you finding a wind event predicted? I searched and couldnāt find winds over 10 mph, which has been typical (still a lot, but not 100,000k acre crazy)
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https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=REV&issuedby=REV&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1
Also the local forecast off the weather service map.
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āCal Fire IMT 3 (See) will transition with Cal Fire IMT 1 (Huang) tomorrow, Unified command: CAL Fire IMT 1 (Huang) & Type 1, CA Team 4 (Opliger) and Lassen Volcanic National Park. CAL Fire Team 1 in command of West Zone, CA Team 4 in command of East Zone.ā
My note: I am not going to contradict NOPS, but I think they got a team number confused because Cal Fire IMT 3 was the 2-hour and should be coming in, but then is not mentioned. Iāll let it go until its confirmed or corrected.
This raises an interesting possibility. Multiple teams in the same area requesting the same types and kind of resources (because of PL5 and draw-down might be considered or classified as ācritical resourcesā) usually/can/often requires an Area Command Structure. That will be something to watch for in the next day or two.
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Click for a map. Oops, no Beckwourth fire on itā¦
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Shouldnāt this graphic include the Beckworth complex? It covers a lot of ground within the blue area.
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The NOPS statement is correct. Unified command will still be team 1 for the next day or so. IMT 3 will transition with IMT 1 probably Sunday. Just getting in place and setting up now.
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There doesnāt seem to be a lot of discussion about the fireās movement todayā¦ looking at the kmzās from today vs yesterday vs 2 days ago, it seems to me the north head lost almost all momentum once it got about halfway through the caribou wilderness today, is that right?
Dixie Fire Evening Operations Update, East Zone, Planning Operations Section Chief evening fire video update for August 6.
https://www.facebook.com/1691053097787531/videos/358785859162256
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Update from on the ground from a media perspective: Drove to the fireās NNE edge today along the Old Town Rd haul road to the ESE of Westwood today. The fire came through as both a running crown fire and ground fire, with 100% consumption of fuels up until about the last mile. From there it appeared either logging or a more recent fire scar slowed the spread of the blaze, and the last mile or so to the meadow was largely untouched. There was plenty of dozer line (not sure it recent or put in earlier as contingency, or opened up from earlier fire) but it was checked up pretty good against that. No units going direct in that area, but 6 dozers doing a massive 6-10 blade wide break along the Old Town Rd.
Westwood was an evacuated ghost town, with LE patrolling, strike teams in place, and the BNSF fire train gearing up to head to Greenville. Train ended up spraying water all along the 147 rail line. Strike teams prepping homes along the 147 corridor. 89 between Canyondam and Greenville passable but with very dense smoke (extremely hazardous AQI, probably 600+) and blocking out sun so you needed full headlights during daytime. Lots of snags coming down but some of the worst widowmakers next to the road were removed, and falling mods moving around dropping the sketchiest trees.
Yesterday crews did great work in Lake Alamnor West on structure protection. I heard 2 structures and a garage lost (saw the garage first hand). The Santa Rosa County strike team bulldozed the garage on fire and saved the house. Big stops in there protecting houses. There was also alot of prepwork done by homeowners with FMZs and defensible space, so kudos for that.
Lots of dozer and prep work in Crescent Mills, fire was still up the ridge behind town (hope it stays that way). Didnāt make it to the fire out past Chester to the NW today (way out in the Lassen NF now). Hoping the lid on the inversion allows them to get more dozer and contingency line in, prep structures, etc. Was about 15 degrees cooler today under the inversion. Also along 36 north of Alamanor Peninsula, lots of dozer work being done. Phoschecked north side of highway. Further west on 36 back outside of Chester, more dozer line going in, looks like a freeway. Not sure Iāve covered an incident with more dozers on it. Numerous cabins lost, including a friend of a friendās.
Interviewed some Greenville evacuees at the Red Cross shelter in Quincy today, they are devastated and know their house in town center is likely gone. They are being provided food, water, shower facilities etc and resources are being provided to them for next steps to figure out the following weeks for shelter, etc.
Last gentleman I talked to was an older man who was from Crescent Mills. When I think the hell this fire has wrought down on Greenville and Canyondam, I think of civilians like him who still have a fighting chance of a home to return to. You all are making that happen, so thank you. As always a privilege to help share the story of the work wildland firefighters too. See you all at the next one. - Orange Curtain.
PS - Iād post some photos but itās saying the IO is fullā¦
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