CA-LNU-Pickett??

Little over an hour ago Helco requested AA above the fire within 15 mins. Sounds like some tankers working the NE area

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Looks like it’s getting into some thicker fuels or something

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In watching the instability/t-storms moving in from the SE i’m wondering if the possibility of something like a ā€œgravity waveā€ from outflow winds might propagate towards the W-NW and potentially influence this fire - given we’re still a ways from sun going down and this instability might persist for some time after sunset? Or is that slug of t-storms/instability not yet organized enough to create such energetic line of outflow? Am i nuts for thinking that @anvilhead @norcal74

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Looks like the airshow is back. T122, T181, T86 and T85 along with 4 rotorwings and a Helco over the fire now

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Yes, seems plausible because there is mid-level ascent with this easterly wave approaching. As long as the fire is burning intensely, it should ventilate efficiently with the instability.

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I think it agreed with you.

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CF IMT 4 activated

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Sonoma County just issued an all call for OD Personnel.
All staffed engines are to respond to the fire.
This is from a SC Captain.

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This was just Cal Fire engines and the wet-hire cover engines.

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I’m not sure that is accurate. Calfire issued an alert for all Calfire engines available in Napa to respond. Nothing for Sonoma County has been issued.

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This seems odd. Did they throw Command and Control out the window and willy nilly told everyone to respond? Or was there a dispatch that sent the remaining engines in Napa. I know things have changed in 10 years since I retired, but I hope ā€˜dump the Unit’ hasn’t become SOP.

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Watch Duty Reported this ā€œ All available local CAL FIRE engines have been dispatched as an additional response to the Pickett Fire, reporting to the area of Aetna Springs Rd & Pope Valley Rd, per radio traffic.ā€

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In watching the GOES West i’m 95++% certain the energy of that air can now be seen pushing the low level clouds to the W/NW & the rippling across the top of the marine layer in the same direction, just south of SF. It ( what i believe is the push of air generated by the T-cell outflow & inertia) appears to be working its way north. Just fyi…

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This is why WD is very ā€œnot trustingā€ for me because I haven’t heard such a dispatch yet.

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Don’t you think that is just vigorous on-shore flow? The smoke on the surface (west of the plume) all the way up to the alto-cumulus clouds seem to be in stout WSW wind. There is definitely a mountain wave.
Those of us on the eastside of the Sierra see this kind of thing all of the time.

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Concur, it’s most visible from the Berryessa Peak cam—the undulating plume hugging the surface is a giveaway.

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You just about have to vet everything you read/hear these days.

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Im seeing (it could be shadows/artifacts of GOES) what looks to me to be a push from the se towards the w-nw, offshore. And to me it was/is looking like the column was (in the current loop) recently also skewed toward the nw from its mostly steady northward drift. But, im a stooge just trying to learn and could be way off. Hopefully my tone/words arent sounding like i’m trying to be an expert - in hindsight i need to leave my feeling of certainty out of the post for complex Wx stuff like this.. I hear & understand what you are describing and there is no argument from me on that.

Edit: trying to say i believe more than one force of Wx is acting upon the local environment..

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For reference this is what ive been staring at.

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