CA-SHF-Hirz??

A lot of Hirz looks like low-moderate severity on the satellite imagery. Any comments from people who have been seeing it on the ground?
Image from 8/23/2018.


Source: https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/eo-browser/?lat=40.93707&lng=-122.31886&zoom=13&time=2018-08-23&preset=6-SWIR&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&datasource=Sentinel-2%20L1C

Reminder that feds go 14 days. This means tomorrow or Monday all that started at the beginning of this incident are timing out. Not that I know much about the big reasons nor why it should matter who is doing what on what fire discussions but I do know there is a Castle up there on mcloud river, & as of when I spoke to hubby earlier before he went out it has not crossed the river & their burn ops kicked butt & was huge. His words. Curtis Coots is timing out I believe as is my hubby & his crew after Sunday night shift. He also mentioned young is stepin in? Idk Just had to throw my two cents in.

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Rick Young is the Incident Commander of California Interagency Incident Management Team 5 (Federally sponsored team). If C & G from a CALFIRE Team show up, they will work good together. Team 5 has a solid Ops group and excellent Liaison Officers. This fire has a high level of interest, high values, lots of politics and working together the Feds and State will put this thing to bed.

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That_guy- is the whole team deployment confirmed? Had heard they were asked to split the team.

Started with just C&G staff but was told it’s a full a activation now. Still hearing rumor of a red base camp possibly in Mccloud. Not sure how the dynamics will work out, also heard if CF pulls the pin they want to order 10 limas 10 charlies and 10 golf on top of what is already assigned.

Here is a satellite view of the fire from yesterday.


And a closer view of the types of fuels it is burning in.

Composite image showing fire severity - hot burns in the chaparral, lower intensity in the closed-canopy timber.

Also looks like the fire is burning hot in heavy slash in some of the clearcuts on the SRA.

It is understandable that CAL FIRE wants to keep the fire out of the commercial timberlands/plantations, but so far, it looks like the fire has done a lot of good work putting mixed-severity fire on the ground in lands that are mixed brush, oak, and conifer, and (for the most part, so far) not actively managed for timber.
In our inability to get large-scale prescribed fire on the ground, wildfire is doing a lot of the heavy lifting of fuels management for us. There is a lot of debate about direct vs indirect tactics, but we’ve got to remember that the Federal land management agencies have a lot of different management objectives (wildlife, biodiversity, recreation, cultural resources, etc) than CAL FIRE does, and to me, this fire looks like it has a lot of good land management outcomes so far.

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Any word on what’s going on this fire.

Smoke impacts north of Dunsmuir are significant, Mt Shasta isn’t visible from Mcloud ICP

We’re still receiving daily requests to fill overhead positions on this incident, as I’m assuming people are starting to time-out. Most of the other incidents where we have sent equipment and overhead have returned them to our area. Time to take a breath… NorCal expected to heat up again starting tomorrow😟. It’s still early Summer conditions out there folks!

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Where is the ICP? I know you said McCloud but where is this?

Old McCloud sawmill 909 Mill Rd

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Maps
https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/calif_n/!2018_FEDERAL_Incidents/CA-SHF-001223_Hirz/GIS/Products/Mobile_Maps/

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Anyone have any Intel? The Modis hits look like the burnout operation slopped to the west in a big way, and there’s a good column visible from Mt. Shasta.

Don’t put too much thought behind that modis hit, it’s doing what they want.

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Big burn shows to tie in the north end at Div X and Div Y and on the south side in Div T and U, east side patrol status and trying to hold a mid slope road on the west in div W, lots of roll out to deal with

They are pretty far along with some pretty complex firing ops along the middle of the West side of the fire. There is checkerboard ownership thru this area, and lots of red slash in some of the clearcuts and thinning units the firing is passing thru. Tough ground, and a big box. There is a lot going on on this map. https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/calif_n/!2018_FEDERAL_Incidents/CA-SHF-001223_Hirz/GIS/Products/Mobile_Maps/BRANCH_I_arch_e_port_20180901_2150_Hirz_CASHF001223.pdf
Today’s IR for Google Earth:
https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/calif_n/!2018_FEDERAL_Incidents/CA-SHF-001223_Hirz/IR/20180902/20180902_Hirz_IR.kmz

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Maps https://ftp.nifc.gov/public/incident_specific_data/calif_n/!2018_FEDERAL_Incidents/CA-SHF-001223_Hirz/GIS/Products/Mobile_Maps/

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Here are a couple new satellite images for the Hirz Fire, North of Shasta Lake, captured on 9/2/2018. Reddish areas lack vegetation after the fire.
Fire severity looks like it was highest in areas of montane chaparral, on upper slopes, and in clearcuts and other areas without much shade.


This overlay is available for use in Google Earth here: http://firemaps.us/files/20180902_Hirz_Severity.kmz

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