Dixie Fire maps for 7/20/21 at 2:20 am. White line shows 24 hour growth. Fire was about 10 miles from Prattville. Data source: NIROPS/Courtney Aviation.
This morningâs 209 is showing 59,984 acres from the IR. I guess CF or this team has a policy of not putting interpreted acres on any of the IR docs and maps at the FTP site.
3 posts were merged into an existing topic: Should we do a better job at explaining why we monitor fires, or suppress them immediately?
From City of Riverside Facebook:
This morning OES is deploying Strike Team 6800A with Riverside City being the Strike Team Leader along with Engine 369 from Station 8 and Engine 353 from Station 11. The Strike Team will be forming up at noon today and once formed up will travel to the Dixie Incident. The strike consist of the following apparatus:
(CDR) Engine 413
(HMT) OES Engine 352
(RIV) OES Engine 353
(COR) OES Engine 354
(RIV) OES Engine 369
I still see 17 orders that are pending in different regions of the state for the Any Type Strike Teams. They really dispersed these orders out early all over the state.
During last nightâs incident command briefing, Chief Nick Truax said a significant order had been placed to beef up personnel in Plumas County, and a second incident command team will be established due to the complexities of the fire. In issuing last nightâs advisory for the Lake Almanor communities, Sheriff Todd Johns said it wasnât due to the Dixie Fire advancing, but rather due to the number of lightning strikes coming from the fire that could ignite new fires. And because the smoke is so thick in the Almanor Basin, it is difficult to see any new starts. Those communities will soon see a greater presence of firefighters in the area and Chief Truax said that there are contingency lines in place to protect them.
7/29 0900
15 pending ST orders
All being shopped XBox or OES
Will the new IMT create a new ICP, or use the existing one alongside the current IMT? Will the new IMT be State or Fed?
Strange, there are a lot of LG departments sitting here with no orders.
Canât address your specific situation T4uCK but EVERY operational area was pinged for availability.
Hopefully both Butte and Plumas Sheriff donât need to evacuate any more large population areas because that would likely require a larger law mutual aid presence, and communications are severely crippled for that now that the fire has taken all four VTAC channels as fire tacticals. Butte has learned from both Camp and North fires, as well as the Oroville Dam incident, and has both fixed and portable interoperability gateways that seamlessly allow nearly any mutual aid officerâs radio right onto the Butte County radio system and have dispatcher support and situational awareness. Thatâs useless now with all four VTAC assigned. Not sure on Plumas gateway infrastructure, but CalOES has rolling assets that often fill this role when needed. Again, useless now for this incident.
Out of 37 calfire tacticals, only 5 are assigned (one as A/G). Donât waste my time explaining not all 37 are available in any given area etc., but there are plenty more than 5 for the incidentâs geographical area before they need be desperate enough to grab all the VTAC. All 7 NIFC tacs are on todayâs 205, 3 are unassigned. No VFIRE assignments either. 
Is this a COML problem? A CDO problem? A topic for future Firescope comm specialist mtg? (yes, I may be a little passionate about this after fighting it for 8 seasons trying to support law communications on major incidents)
They still have at least 2 vlaw and 9 LE interop channels just on VHF to choose from and vtac 33-38 if they throw a repeater up. The problem lies in that alot of LE agencies have gone to UHF and cannot use the VHF channels any more and do not have a cache of VHF to use for situations like this. CHP used to be able to use their cars as mobile cross band repeaters but I donât know if that is true any more.
Disclaimer: I work red and blue, on a good day I canât talk to 1/2 the officers on scene in my own area. And it is only getting worse with encryption because of new privacy laws.
This morningâs public information briefing:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2159448650863506&id=974406452701071
Sounds like many of the strike teams ordered will be used for pre-planning and structure prep of surrounding communities.
Fed IMT 2 Inbrief today 1500 and will be setting up a 2nd ICP in Quincy
Thanks Ehoss84. Appreciated.
Indian Ridge is showing some activity⌠Earlier than in past days maybe?
http://www.alertwildfire.org/shastamodoc/index.html?camera=Axis-IndianRidge
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It looks on the Maps like the Dixie is following in the Chips fires path? Wonder if the USFS ever pondered if it would have been better to follow its own recommendations on the chips fire now⌠but that is another topic for another looooong day, really long
That order does not surprise me, I am sure it was based on some very good Intel and the Tactical Engagement Principles. Moving a couple of hundreds of engines to a fire in SoCal is one issue; you will get them in hours and the Command and Control issues and logistics will eat your lunch (and have). In NorCal, moving a couple of hundred engines includes a significant reflex time for the system to work and for them to arrive. That requires a significant amount of forecasting and estimating and then proposing to the C&GS, or letting them know that you will be ordering 40 S/Tâs. It isnât done on a whim and you get the stink eye (at least I did) from some members who realize the logistical, financial, and planning efforts to support that influx and amount of complexity they bring to a Camp. From an operational perspective, the Tactical Engagement Principles require you to do it early. A strike team a day early is only âlost money,â a strike team a day late can be a public perception and operational nightmare. If you understand the principles of Mass, Maneuver, Position, and eventually Reserves, you will understand the importance of timely ordering.
Principle - Description
Adapted from the Principles of War that are still taught in all services, they make sense.
Fairgrounds or FRC?
End of yesterday it looked like growth was slowed significantly on the north side of Bald Eagle towards Bucks Lake. Today it is moving around the south side. Not seeing any tankers in the air yet, just AA.
